November 1, 2004
Chico: From somewhere in
America.... the ODB memorial edition of WLTI... is
Jason: Brooklyn in da house!
Chico: Alongside Gordon Pepper, this is Chico Alexander,
and it's a
Wednesday... which is weird, because we usually do this
on the weekend.
Jason: Lets me be to able to give my stellar opinions.
Gordon: What stellar opinions?
Jason: Let's see...how about the one where I told you
that Bush would kick
serious rear end...:-)
Gordon: The man with the stellar opinions - and the man
who has yet to be
beaten on WPLJ's show dedicated to him - Jason Block.
Travis: Oh, that's right; I forgot about that show "Beat
the Blockhead," or
Jason: It's Beat the Block.
Travis: See, it's a pun...
Jason: I got it--didn't want it...but I got it...
Travis: <ducks behind chair>
Jason: Thank you, thank you...7:30AM every Tuesday on
95.5FM in New York
Chico: In case you didn't notice, joining us in the
nut-house today are what
we in the business call semi-regs. Jason Block is one of
them. The second one,
from the land of Starbucks, Microsoft, and Nintendo,
Jason: I am allergic to nuts...how come I don't feel
Chico: He has stellar opinions, too... But we never hear
any of them.
Ryan: On the net perhaps for us Canucks?
Jason: Ryan still rules, even if he is Canadian!
Ryan: Thanks :-)
Chico: And the ever Canadian Ryan Vickers rounds us out.
Travis: Hey! I'm 1/4 Canadian. So watch it, eh!
Travis: Maternal grandmother is from Edmonton.
Ryan: Nice. I knew it :-)
Gordon: My bacon is Canadian
Chico: So here we have The Wild West, the Big East, the
Great White North,
and the Dirty South
Jason: NYC and NJ representin` (prepares a knife if
things get rough)
Ryan: AH! Justin BB2 alert!
Travis: I will attack with my razor-sharp wit if
Jason: No, Vibe Awards.
Gordon: Come now - we're not from Boston, Indiana or
Detroit. We do not need
knives or chairs.
Jason: NY is where the rats carry guns.
Chico: Lots of stuff going on around here so let's not
waste any time. First
off, Ken Jennings... is taking a bit of a break =p
Travis: Praise the lawd.
Ryan: He couldn't get into the college tourney?
Gordon: He looks young enough to - but no. And just in
case you have missed
him, Alex Trebek puts in a Jennings reference on almost
Jason: He tried.
Chico: He failed.
Travis: He could buy any number of degrees... That's the
only thing he's
failed at, I believe.
Ryan: Especially those that are sent to my inbox.
Chico: But he probably taught others exactly how to beat
him, because now we
have a few people who could be contenders.
Jason: I am going with Lily Wang from Columbia.
Jason: She is a great player.
Travis: What can I say, I dig brainy Asian chicks with
piles of money...
Gordon: Kermin seems to be the man - so I'll go with
Jason: You mean Ashton Kutcher.
Gordon: Kermin - Ken. Both start with K-e. Both end in
N. Why not?
Ryan: K-e indeed!
Travis: The guy with the leet bet?
Jason: And Asian chicks are cool. Gordon and I play pai
gow with them.
Chico: I'm also going with Kermin.
Gordon: Nothing like Wild Asian Women at your Pai Gow
Jason: My luck hasn't been the best lately. But its fun
to play with them.
Chico: Anyway, we have the nine, and i've grouped them
Gordon: Sooooo....groups of three, then...?
Jason: Look I just work here :-) Groups of three.
Chico: Yes you do... Now get my coffee :-) Okay, you
have three groups: The
contenders, the underdogs, and the people that got by on
luck and little else.
The contenders obviously channel the spirit of a player
that Gordon is
beginning to become reviled with.
Jason: Ken the man.
Gordon: Ken and his frigging Mormon-mobile.
Chico: Kermin, Rachel, and Lily. Those are your
Jason: Lily is my pick there. She is a great player.
Chico: She is... But Kermin could probably take her.
Travis: I still agree.
Gordon: I have to go with Kermin.
Jason: Let them get to the finals and we shall see.
Chico: The underdogs are good players not to be
Casey, and Ari. Kelley has a deadly buzzerthumb.
Gordon: Will all three get there - or do you think
Kelley Casey or Ari has a
Travis: Just our luck, all the contenders will be in the
Would be; again, just speculating.
Chico: What are the chances of THAT happening?
Ryan: Doesn't J! preselect the semis? Why do I remember
Travis: I thought it was random draw.
Ryan: Maybe I'm mistaken then. It must be the quarters
Chico: I think it is random draw, and I invite anyone to
correct us if we're
Ryan: No, fair enough, it just seems like a familiar
thought in my head... in
any case, continue :-)
Chico: And then there are the lucky ones. They got here
because of someone
else's errors. Those would be Lindsey, Amory, and the
queen of the lucky ones,
Vicky. She may have won her match, but she did so as
penance for an equally as
grievous move from someone else.
Gordon: Well, going back to something that got me in
trouble, Ben Tritle won
his first game by luck - and then steamrolled his way to
a 5 time
championship. One of these people could certainly do
that and surprise and maybe even take
out a favorite.
Travis: That's true; we've only seen one appearance from
each player. The TOC
would be less prone to have fluke players like that.
Chico: It's been known to happen. Remember Arthur
Travis: Yeah, I didn't have him picked out of the semis.
Gordon: I think that after you get that first appearance
out of your way, you
get more comfortable.
Chico: He was going to go all the way, but he had a bum
game and the rest
Travis: Oh, that's right. I'm sure his $150,000 dries
Chico: Sleeping in money will do that to you.
Ryan: So I've heard...
Chico: But now comes my favorite words to describe week
2 of a J! tourney..
Thank you TNT... "WIN... or go home."
Ryan: It's a good phrase, at that.
Gordon: Or in this case, go back to school.
Travis: Apt, if nothing else.
Chico: And from big money for students, we go to big
money for advertisers.
Guess what time it is...
Travis: Buy or sell?
Gordon: Well, Pizza time was last week
Chico: And that was only the beginning of... sweeps
Ryan: Yay! I think...
Chico: For the next month, expect to see an abundance of
ploys to... well,
keep things interesting to say the least. What's been
the best sweeps stunt so
Gordon: Well, I have two of them
Chico: Share, share...
Ryan: Not twin fear factor I hope.
Chico: Nah, I think that was sometime last year.
Gordon: No - one of them is obvious, one is a stretch
Ryan: AR coming back?
Gordon: Well, talking advertising, you have to give it
up for Pringles, as we
still talk about the Pringles and Beer segment on
Jason: Pringles and Beer?
Chico: Isn't that a Chingy album?
Travis: That is quite possibly the most irritating
example of product
placement in adventure game history.
Jason: Thats Chicken and Beer--a Ludacris album.
Chico: Oh.. My bad.
Ryan: weren't these the same mountain dew and Doritos
Travis: I was speaking to those clips they show just
before going to break,
and every week's "GAME CHANGING MOMENT!!!111"
Chico: There certainly was a glut of those. And did
anything ever change?
Ryan: Agreed... although you have to admit Celebrity
Mole's device of THE
MOST ____________ EXECUTION EVER! was a bit dry by the
end of the Yucatan
Travis: Did the Couples Tournament on FF ever go into a
Chico: Yes it did, I believe.
Travis: Ooh, I got one; I think. FF's most F*ed Up Stunt
Chico: The Rat-o-Matic?
Ryan: I didn't see it... I'm thinking that might have
Travis: No, that Big Horkin' Tesla Coil.
Chico: Ow.. No, no, Power Ranger.
Ryan: Wait, no, we can't make a MMPR reference without
Joe here!!! :-)
Chico: Oh well. He'll read the final copy =p
Gordon: The second one is the airplane company called
Marquis Jets. They are
on every single reality show, from the Apprentice to the
Bachelor to America's
Next Top Model. They are the official Reality Show
Chico: And now this year, we have NASCAR, celebrity
news, and Taye Diggs and
co-ed models. Not to mention millionaires who could buy
airtime, but not
Gordon: Speaking of viewing, let's go to the new shows
and get some quick
opinions on them. Starting with...The Biggest Loser
Chico: Biggest Loser.. inspiring, but gets run in quick.
90 minutes is a bit
much for any show.
Travis: That concerned me too; couldn't they cut 30
Ryan: Why again is it 90 minutes? I could deal with a 90
minute AR, maybe
Survivor... but Biggest Loser? Sounds like it needs to
lose something else...
Gordon: Well, keep in mind that they original format
would have been 60
minutes -but it's expanded in sweeps month to cover the
hole opened by the
disastrous Father of the Pride, So talk about content,
Travis: Ooh. Hm.
Ryan: Fair enough
Travis: The problem is they have 60 minutes of contents
for 90 minutes of
Chico: Basically, they did what they could with what
they had. And tacking a
minute onto commercials can only do so much
Gordon: Forget the time - do you like the show?
Travis: I'm going with "Ambivalent".
Chico: I like the show. I have no problem with it.
Jason: I do. It's unhealthy and medically bad. Just like
Chico: But unfortunately, the time is the problem. It' s
like thinning out
Gordon: Next - My Big Fat Obnoxious Boss - so much
fanfare, so little
ratings. What happened?
Ryan: Didn't Andy Dick already do this bit?
Travis: Why have fake when there's still the original.
Chico: Because they're Fox, and that's what they do.
Jason: The Joe Millionaire syndrome. Fool me once, shame
on you. Fool me
twice, shame on you.
Travis: But it's still funny as all get out.
Chico: I shouldn't be having that much fun watching
something like that,
Gordon: Is it just me, or does it seem like people like
seeing the first time
a concept is done, but once they've seen it, they don't
stick around for the
second time it's done?
Chico: Very good point, Gordon.
Jason: Because outside of Survivor, Apprentice and
concepts are one note sambas.
Ryan: Yes, but for example I thought that Joe Schmo was
wonderfully down the
Chico: But this is just a recent turn. Take into account
The Swan, which has
stellar showing season 1, but barely on the map season
Gordon: I think that separated it between an event - and
a good game.
Survivor, Amazing Race, Apprentice - great games. My Big
Fat... and Joe Schmo - fun
to see, but not a concept that I would keep watching.
Ryan: They've wisely bowed out with JS2
Gordon: Well, the Swan 2 finally went back up to decent
ratings, but I don't
think that the show has a great game behind it - I think
it's a car wreck sort
of show. No redeeming value, but you have to watch.
Chico: Precisely. I think the end of season 1 taught us
Travis: They could do away with the pageant...and then
what? It's Yet Another
Chico: It would just be Extreme Makeover.
Ryan: Extreme Makeover: Foxified
Gordon: If they do away with the pageant, then they lose
the hook and the
show will really tank
Chico: My Big Fat Surgeon.
Ryan: Don't forget obnoxious!
Chico: Of course. And speaking of which, Spike TV has a
new comp called "I
Hate My Job", where eight men compete for their dream
jobs, and of all people to
host... Stop at.... Al Sharpton?
Gordon: Can I exchange him and spin again?
Jason: And I can't get a job as a host...!
Chico: See, Jason.. You're not annoying enough =p
Travis: Change that card, Chico!
Gordon: Changing the Al to.....George Gray!
Travis: Good change!
Ryan: I like it!
Ryan: All of it higher!!
Chico: Higher than George Gray... A Big Board =p
Chico: You knew that was coming, didn't you?
Gordon: But of course.
Jason: Sure I did...
Chico: This one is called "Host of a Chance".
Chico: Here we see the four possible outcomes of a basic
up: good host, bad concept
Ryan: Recent or historical?
Chico: This would be George Gray on $25 Million Hoax.
Gordon: I would say George Gray on Greek Games makes the
Chico: Fair... and accurate enough
Travis: George Gray has had ONE decent show that I've
Ryan: Extreme gong, then?
Gordon: Hes been on a few good ones - The Weakest Link
was also fun
Chico: Weakest Link was good. I'd Do Anything, alright.
Travis: I was going to say TWL, in fact.
Gordon: IDA is decent.
Chico: Not as captivating as some stunt shows, but it
gets me there.
Travis: So, are we just tossing out examples of the
setup you give, Chico?
Chico: Actually, it's more of a means to an end this
Travis: Well, I got two GSN originals: WinTuition and
Jason: I have a third...Todd Newton and Whammy.
Travis: Asinine game play, good hosts. Yeah, that'll fly
Ryan: Marc Summers is a great host, we just need a good
Q&A format for him
Chico: History IQ was pretty good.
Jason: Very good.
Travis: Damn right it was.
Gordon: Soudns like we have a lot of examples - next
Chico: Next up: bad host, good concept. American Idol
comes to mind.
Jason: Jeff Probst in Survivor.
Ryan: You can add Canadian Idol to that as well.
Travis: Bzz! Wrong!
Jason: Probst is smarmy and tacky.
Gordon: Huh? Ryan is perfect as the smarmy host in Idol.
Probst is excellent
as the muckraker in Survivor
Travis: Which fits the show. Good hosts adapt to the
format. Probst had a
different approach for R&R J. He can mix it up.
Ryan: I can't say much about Ben Mulroney on our version
Gordon: I agree with Travis. Probst adapted and asked
the questions during
the show that we all want to know. He came into his own
so well that he got to
quiz the contestants in the reunion show.
Chico: And was promoted to Producer. So there's some
smarm there. Like "I'm
the producer. I have a third ball."
Jason: He was excellent in RRJ
Ryan: You're right about Jeff.
Chico: Can't argue with that.
Travis: Who was the dummkopf who let Bryant Gumbel host
Jason: Or Rosie O Donnell
Chico: I have.. no idea.
Gordon: Probst is very good - now Stuart Scott in Stump
the Schwab, on the
Jason: Yes. You are right on that one.
Travis: Good as a broadcaster, sucky as host?
Chico: He was a good host, but the concept was only
Gordon: Decent show, Scott was not a good fit and the
Scwab made the show
Chico: Not unlike the next one... Bad host, bad format.
I call JD Roberto on
Shop Til You Drop.
Jason: Amanda Byram from the Swan
Chico: What the hell was on their minds?
Ryan: I call JD Roberto from Are you hot
Travis: I think Pat had too many riders in his contract.
Gordon: What about Cupid? Really bad idea to make
American Idol, love style,
worse to stick a reject from MTV (Brian McFadden) to be
Chico: Ah. Well, now we come to the Promised Land...
Good show, good host... Amazing Race comes to mind.
Travis: The Race, the Mole...
Ryan: The Race and The Mole (my OST is on right now...)
Jason: Extreme Makeover Home Edition, Apprentice, and
Gordon: and, of course, Millionaire.
Chico: TPIR goes without saying.
Gordon: and Greed
Gordon: What about Win Ben Stein's Money. and that
Kimmel kid. I wonder what
happened to him?
Jason: Not much.
Ryan: You mean "Jimmy Kimmel Pretaped"?
Chico: I think he was pretty broken up, so he begged ABC
for a job.
Gordon: And since this has been a very long segment.,
I'm begging for a
Jason: so am I.
Gordon: Still to come - a date with the video wall, but
up next, a date with
something classical - or something new? We'll find out
after the break
Chico: That's all next, this is WLTI, stay there.
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