Episode 22.13
December 7

Josh: YIKES!
Chico: That made me sad.
Gordon: 68-66, Kentucky wins over North Carolina. Eat them up, yum. :)
Chico: Shaddup :P
Josh: Ok, Which one is UNC and Which one is Duke?
Chico: UNC... light blue. Duke... dark... evil blue...
Josh: Chico, Gordon, who do you root for?
Chico: That's... just obvious. UNC. And Gordon... Duke. Because a) he got a tie from Coach K.
Gordon: Yep.
Chico: and 2) he hates whatever I like.
Gordon: Yep. :D
Josh: Thankfully I'm a Pitt fan so I am nowhere near that rivalry.
Chico: Until the Meineke Bowl.
Joe: Gordon roots for the comet to destroy us all in 2012
Chico: Is that true about the comet?
Gordon: Ok. I do not root for the comet to come destroy us all.
Joe: Just the Cowboys?
Josh: Booooooo
Gordon: No. the Cowboys can live.
Chico: Boo...
Gordon: I just want the comet to affect the magnetic fields so that no athletic team from the Carolina can ever win a game. Ever.
Chico: Aw. Too bad. Carolina just won over TB, 16-6.
Gordon: Tampa is beyond help. Nothing you can do there.
Josh: Geez. Now I'm sorry I asked.
Chico: Anyhoo, Welcome back... or if you are just joining us, where've you been? Now let's go back to 2005... it was a simple time, really...
Josh: We're all set, Mister Peabody.
Chico: And because it was so simple, we have news stories... which was the biggest? That's for you to decide in Who's Your Daddy: 2005 edition. We start with the middle of the year and...

Brad Rutter wins the Ultimate Tournament of Champions.

Joe: Nice one to start
Josh: That's a big one. The UToC ran for the better part of that season, didn't it?
Chico: Three months.
Josh: It seemed longer than a standard ToC
Gordon: I like that one.
Chico: Good start, isn't it?
Josh: Yes, Very good.
Gordon: Now here's a classic from 2005. But...Can...They...Sing!
Joe: I see this going towards the bottom.
Josh: I'd put it smack dab at the bottom, and leave a lot of spaces in between this and the UToC
Chico: Bottom.
Gordon: We'll go bottom here.
Chico: I don't even remember who won that.
Gordon: Michael Copon
Joe: All I remember is Bai Ling
Gordon: Fun thing to remember :)
Chico: And what's Michael doing nowadays? Being confused for "that guy from New Moon"
Josh: LOL
Joe: I'm on Team Watch A Better Movie

Rutter > BCTS

Chico: I'm on Team Ninja... developing Ninja Gaiden 3 :-). Next.. Original Countdown host Richard Whiteley dies.
Josh: Not as big a story in the states...
Chico: That was huge over in the UK.
Joe: It's all a matter of scope
Josh: BUT It is more towards the top...probably 2 or 3 on our list.
Gordon: I'd say, 2 or 3...from the bottom. Non-Story here.
Joe: I'd put it in the middle for now
Chico: Middle as well.
Josh: Middle

Rutter > WHITELEY > .. Can They Sing?

Gordon: Next one... Trato Hecho
Chico: It was the premiere of the Spanish-language LMAD. Produced in association with Monty himself IIRC. Over Whiteley, under Rutter
Josh: Which gives it credibility. I agree with Chico's arrangement.
Gordon: And it's the inspiration for our game Buen Trato. Over Whiteley
Joe: I'm going to hate myself saying this, ut I put it on the bottom
Josh: I believe a psychiatrist can cure the hating yourself.
Chico: You at least have a good reason there, Joe?
Joe: Again, it's a matter of scope. BCTS was promo'd up. I found Trato hecho by accident
Chico: So did I.
Joe: Were it not for us, who would've known, aside from the daytime spanish-speaking crowd. It's a good story, but not a big one.

Rutter > TRATO > Whiteley > ... Can They Sing?

Gordon: Next one?
Chico: Next one... The premiere of Iron Chef America on Food network. Over Trato, under Rutter.
Josh: I'd put it between Rutter and Trato.
Joe: #2
Gordon: #2 here, too.
Chico: Easy breezy Japaneezey.
Josh: The Battle of the Masters was a great pilot, and Then the series (Created with the people from FujiTV) was on target. Iron Chef that didn't look pretentious.
Joe: Iron Chef was arguably THE show that put Food Network on the map
Chico: Yep.

Rutter> IRON CHEF > Trato > Whiteley > But Can They Sing

Chico: It still excites to this day.
Josh: It sure does. They cast it RIGHT!
Chico: Next?
Gordon: Next one... Beauty and the Geek. This lasted for a while and helped put the CW on the Map.
Joe: I'd put this at 3
Chico: Under Trato, over Whiteley.
Josh: I'd put it between Whiteley and BCTS. Yes it put CW on the map, but I never liked the format and I have no respect for it's producer.
Gordon: I'd say 3, knowing it will be pushed down.,
Chico: I mean, it's a debut, but then again, so is Wickedly Perfect. Not quite notable.

Rutter > Iron Chef > Trato > BEAUTY/GEEK > Whiteley > But Can They Sing

Chico: next up... The Deal or No Deal phenomenon begins with versions in the UK and the US.
Joe: Tough one
Josh: I'd put it in third, myself. A great debut, though.
Chico: This was an event... This brought game shows back into the limelight on network TV.
Josh: I call shenanigans!
Chico: So as much as it pains me... over ICA, under Rutter.
Joe: ARGH
Gordon: It's still felt around the world. #1.
Josh: WWTBAM Brought gameshows back into the limelight on network TV.
Chico: Then it died. Overkill.
Joe: I have this as 1 or 2
Josh: But you still had game shows on in between then and DoND's debut.
Chico: But none of them broke out like DOND did.
Joe: *flips coin* #1
Josh: I still say third. It's high, but not as high as Rutter.
Chico: Alrighty...

Rutter > DEAL > Iron Chef > Trato > Beauty/Geek > Whiteley > But Can They Sing

Joe: I think Rutter had some impact globally (because of who he beat and how), but it's still DoND, airing in a bazillion countries
Chico: This is true. I'll say that the Dutch still did it right. And by extension... the Aussies. Next?
Gordon: Next one... So You Think You Can Dance.
Joe: Solid 3
Josh: Considering the impact it's made, I'd place it middle of road. Between IC and Trato.
Gordon: I'll go #2. Despite the lackluster Winter ratings, it's still a powerhouse in the Summer.
Chico: Well, this was season one... and it didn't come into its own until at least season 2. So I'll go between ICA and Trato.

Rutter > Deal > DANCE > Iron Chef > Trato > Beauty/Geek > Whiteley > But Can They Sing

Chico: Next... Cash Cab begins operation on Discovery
Gordon: #1. No question.
Josh: NUMERO UNO!
Joe: That's a bit of a stretch
Josh: It is a great concept, the money amount's right, and It's intelligent.
Gordon: It won the Daytime Emmy for outstanding Game Show in 2008 and 2009.
Chico: It's a good show and it's got longevity... and it has the hardware... but it didn't have the drama that Brad Rutter's upset did. Number 2... but SLIGHTLY
Joe: I'll upset the curve here with a #5. Good does not equal Big.
Chico: So it goes like this...

Rutter > Deal > CASH CAB > Dance > Iron Chef > Trato > Beauty/Geek > Whiteley > But Can They Sing

Gordon: Next one... Hell's Kitchen
Josh: Above Deal.
Chico: Below Cash Cab.
Josh: No one had seen anything like it in the US, and it made a superstar out of Ramsay.
Chico: Ramsay made a superstar out of Ramsay.
Joe: Well, nothing like it unless you count Simon on AI
Chico: And aside from his personality... it was Yet Another Reality Elimination Series.
Gordon: I'll agree with Chico. It's the only Primetime Cooking competition on Network TV that's lasted this long.
Joe: I put it as 4.
Chico: That's about where I put it, Joe.
Josh: Ok, you swayed my opinion. Four.

Rutter > Deal > Cash Cab > RAMSAY > Dance > Iron Chef > Trato > Beauty/Geek > Whiteley > But Can They Sing

Chico: Now it's time for the spoiler round.
Gordon: Spoil, spoilers, spoil.
Chico: First up... John O'Hurley calls shenanigans on the first season of Dancing with the Stars, thus leading to a dance off.
Josh: It demonstrated the staying power of DWTS.
Joe: I'd have put the entire season at #2 myself, but I don't remember this
Gordon: #1. It's an international phenomenon that is still ruling American TV sets.
Josh: I'll go number 1
Chico: I'll go #2. If only for last season. So...

DANCE OFF > Rutter > Deal > Cash Cab > Ramsay > Dance > Iron Chef > Trato > Beauty/Geek > Whiteley > But Can They Sing

Chico: Your spoiler, sir?
Gordon: My spoiler is...Who's Your Daddy!
Chico: Under But Can They Sing.
Joe: We have 12 right now. I put this 15th.
Josh: I'd tie BCTS and Who's Yer Daddy Both were absolutely (censored)
Chico: Can't we just bury this dreck and forget it ever existed?
Gordon: This is a masterpiece! A classic from 2005!
Joe: A Masterpiece of sh(bleep)t
Chico: On what planet? Planet 51, maybe?
Josh: (censor cuckoo)
Gordon: Where else can a porn star find out who her true father is?
Joe: Maury
Chico: *ding* Joe's on fire. So...

Dance-Off > Rutter > Deal > Cash Cab > Ramsay > Dance > Iron Chef > Trato > Beauty/Geek > Whiteley > But Can They Sing > and way way way down in the dragon butt... Gordon's Your Daddy.

Josh: HA!
Gordon: I'll be your daddy, Chico can be your mommy.
Chico: No.
Josh: Ok, the wayback is set to take us forward to 2009.
Chico: You disagree with this, go ahead and e-mail us. Next week... we've got a two-fer: 2006 AND 2007. But still to come, we pilot the John Davidson Time Machine to 2009 and a world premiere game. Game show intel. It's what we do and we'll do more of it next.

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Josh: You'd have to be crazy to go through those moments.
Gordon: Whoo hooo!
Chico: Think about everyone who ever answered a country answer with "Europe" That's silly. Stop being silly, you silly person.
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Gordon: The game is called...

Gordon: Simple game. You just tell us what happens first.
Josh: A chicken or egg type of thing?
Gordon: Something like that. Ready to play?
Joe: Yup
Josh: Ready.
Chico: Ready!
Gordon: Here we go...

We give out 1 million dollars (for real) on Millionaire, or we award $500,000 (for real) on Deal or No Deal?

Chico: $1 million for reals.
Josh: I think the million from millionaire comes first. DoND is more of a game of chance.
Joe: I honestly don't think either show lasts long enough for those to happen
Chico: I think DOND gets the boot before accomplishing the set-forth goal of $500,000.
Gordon: The million will be awarded first just because I don't know if Deal or No Deal, after being shut down, will manufacture any new episodes.
Josh: It's more of a probability.
Joe: The million will be on a super easy stack with a smarter-than-average contestant.
Chico: There's got to be one who can game the system to get on, you know? Someone with a story... someone with a brain.
Joe: Not on this team's watch.
Chico: A pair of breasts would be an advantage.
Joe: The World Cup Draw was more interesting than Reege Millionaire
Chico: But yeah, you're talking about a lot of yeah, that'll happen.
Gordon: Next one?
Chico: Next one...

Shark Tank gets renewed for a second season or Perfect 10 launches?

Gordon: Shark Tank has 'bonus' episdes, created from footage already shot, but not renewed for a full second season. I'll go with Perfect 10. Especially since The Cube just got dropped from FOX.
Josh: I'll go with Perfect 10, however, NBC should've picked up The cube instead.
Joe: Perfect 10 already has a ballparked date of January, and Shark Tank smells like Shark burn off
Chico: That works. I think Perfect 10 gets on the air first. Shame about The Cube, though...
Joe: Maybe they just didn't have room on the schedule
Josh: It is a shame.
Chico: They had room for Our Little Genius.
Josh: But not for The Cube. Shenanigans on Fox.
Gordon: I disagree with all of you. i think FOX made a smart choice here.
Chico: Granted, it's a lot cheaper to produce than The Cube, but still...
Gordon: The Cube is a high tech very expensive show. No reason to spend that much money when you can get a much cheaper, less-expectationed show.
Joe: Especially when said cheaper show will make schadenfruede of pageant parents
Chico: Yep. Next?
Gordon: Next one...

Adam Lambert gets back on ABC in a primetime musical showcase or Simon Cowell gets The X-Factor on FOX?

Josh: X-Factor. You mess with ABC, you are blackballed from them for life.
Chico: Lambert on ABC.
Joe: Internet Pay-Per-View? Are you kidding me?
Chico: Heh.
Gordon: I'll go Lambert, because if Lambert keeps selling the way he is, ABC will soften its stance.
Chico: There you go.
Gordon: Don't forget those February and May Sweeps coming up. Nothing says forgiveness like greenbacks.
Josh: Nope. ABC is a family network.
Gordon: Thats why it has Desperate Housewives on during Sunday Family kiddie time.
Chico: at night :-)
Joe: If Cowell thinks net PPV is the way to go, then WE have a better chance of landing on Fox.
Chico: I hope we DO end up on Fox :-)
Gordon: Next one?
Chico: Next...

Another Bachelor wedding OR another Bachelor knockoff?

Josh: Knockoff.
Joe: Another Bachelor Knockoff
Josh: Although I hope NEITHER happen!
Joe: Hell, as we tape this, I'm sure a new one popped up
Chico: on VH1 no less.
Josh: *grabs barf bucket and...well....*
Chico: Yeah...
Gordon: Knock off. I'd actually even say Chico will grow an afro before we see another Bachelor wedding. How's that afro going?
Chico: My kid will grow an afro before we see another wedding.
Gordon: How's that kid going?
Chico: Let me put it to you this way... you know somebody?
Gordon: Actually, I hear Jamie Grubbs is now available. I'll text her your phone number.
Josh: HEY NOW
Chico: Yeah, text up the next one, why don't cha.
Gordon: Next one...

Kris Allen sells a million copies off his CD, or Chico Alexander gets a call from Jeopardy's Producers, asking him to play?

Joe: Where's Kris Allen at?
Gordon: 80,000 for week #1.
Josh: I'd say Chico
Chico: Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Josh: I'm serious on this. Good luck with that. I think I am due for a Jeopardy online test myself.
Gordon: Chico is trivia sexiness. And I don't think Allen breaks 750,000, let a lone a million. So we go with the Chairman or Charisma.
Joe: Well it's obvious that the J! prods are blind to the talent, charm and sex appeal of one Chico Alexander, and are afraid that you'd be the next David Madden
Chico: I'll give you talent and charm. Sex appeal... you know somebody? =p
Joe: I know many somebodies
Chico: ... We'll talk after the show. Finally...

Perfect show on Price... or perfect show on LMAD?

Joe: If it's just the base definition of "perfect show", I go Price
Josh: Price is definitely easier.
Gordon: Price. For a perfect show on Let's Make a Deal, you need all the deals to be won, all the cars to be given out, etc. That's near impossible, so we'll go Price.
Joe: 6 for 6 happens on average twice per season; LMAD needs a lot to go right.
Chico: Price has a smaller vantage point for perfection. For there to be a perfect show on LMAD, you need everyone to trade up AND you need a Big Deal win.
So there you go.
Gordon: So thats our new game. Thoughts?
Chico: Cute little game.
Josh: Cute.
Gordon: And we'll get into a cuter Big Finish...next!

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Chico: Remember... leverage.
Josh: And keep the elbow straight.
Joe: Lift with your knees not your back. Uhhhhhhhhh
Gordon: We go swinging for the Big Finish...now! Amazing Race - who wins?
Chico: Meghan & Cheyne.
Josh: Meghan and Cheyne
Gordon: Meghan and Cheyne
Joe: Whoever remembers the race best, which is probably the above
Chico: It always comes down to that. Remember Margie & Luke's surfboard soiree?
Josh: Yuck
Joe: I felt bad for the kid. I really did.
Gordon: Top Chef - who wins?
Josh: I'll take Michael.
Gordon: I'm staying with Kevin
Chico: I'll take a stab in the dark. Bryan. Who's going to the Survivor final as a juror this week?
Gordon: Ill say Dave
Josh: I'll say Monica as well.
Chico: I want to say Monica.
Gordon: Dave Belote has $81,800 after 3 days going into next week. Will he break the $100,000 mark?
Joe: If he wins Monday, yes
Chico: Agreed.
Josh: Too foggy to say. I'd say it depends on the categories.
Joe: Good to see a military man do well.
Chico: knowing our luck, though, he gets outplayed in the J! round and doesn't catch up.
Gordon: I think we'll be talking more about him next week. I think we'll be talking about some mail this week.
Chico: We get mail from Steven Waldie. Thanks, Steven!

Chico: First, let's clear a few things up. a) not every Showcase has to have a theme. b) Johnny O often did humiliate himself, and he was a sport about it, and 3) you like themed Showcases? Thank Jay Wolpert for that.
Gordon: A number of showcases have had themes to them
Josh: I think the Themed Showcases or DrewCases worked this time because they weren't EVERY showcase or featured EVERY day.
Joe: I think practically all the Showcases have themes now, simply because they want all the prizes to link.
Chico: And they usually work.
Josh: The writers understand that Drew didn't like all the prizes to be un-related.
Chico: We get that. That made sense.
Joe: It'll be interesting to see what they do for Christmas in that regards
Chico: I think they won't disappoint.
Josh: They never do at Christmas.
Joe: Well, in the big ticket department, they won't
Chico: And New Years?
Josh: And you know what? I can't wait for next year's April Fools.
Chico: In terms of Showcase style... I'm sure they'll think of something creative. They always do.
Gordon: That should be fun. If you want to write us mail, where does it go?
Chico: It goes to wlti@gameshownewsnet.com or find us on Facebook, Myspace, or YouTube's GSNN video wall channel. Well, it looks like we've plumbed the comedy goldmine dry this week but before we go to the claims office, big thanks to Agent Josh and Joe Mello for hanging out.
Joe: No prob
Josh: Just be sure I get my cut. An honor and pleasure as always.
Gordon: Next week: Amazing Race and Survivor Post-Game Analysis. Until then, for everyone, this is Gordon, saying Game Over and Spread the Love.