September 20, 2004
SPOILER POLICY ENACTED:
Chico: Now, over the past
week, TV Week leaked out a report that Ken Jennings is
to lose after 75 matches.
Gordon: As a matter of fact, we actually have a spy in
our midst who was at the taping that he lost. Would the
spy please reveal himself?
Jason: *whistles incoherently*
Alex: lol
Chico: *looks around*
Jason: Oh....not a spy.....just a well-wisher
Gordon: You are a Spy! J'Accuse!
Alex: Ken didn't even deny the fact that he lost to me
when we talked last Saturday.
Chico: But he DID deny it to the Early Show.
Gordon: Well, he sort of has to, to keep the mystique
going.
Alex: Yeah, Ken said Sony made him do stuff like that.
He said any mass publication right now, he has to lead
people to believe it is a false rumor because if people
knew he lost for sure, the ratings would go back down -
and then peak when he loses.
Chico: Yeah, understandable with confidentiality
agreements and such.
Gordon: But since we have proof that it wasn't a rumor -
Jason, would you kindly give us details as to how Ken
loses?
Jason: .....well.....he was just off his game that day.
I had seen previous recordings, and he was kicking butt
pretty consistently....except one episode (and I won't
say when) where he is actually in THIRD place at the
beginning of Double Jeopardy.
Alex: Do you think he was just off of his game, or he
was doing some of it on his own will to end his run?
Jason: I really think he was off his game that day. He
seemed more relieved than anything, especially when he
was in the audience for the last three shows!
Chico: The likely scenario would have Ken trailing
going into Final Jeopardy.
Gordon: According to my other spy who was there (we all
have backup spies), Jennings was in the lead going into
Final Jeopardy and blows it.
Jason: Oh, come on now....I don't want to TOTALLY spoil
it. :-p Like Ken said, we have to leave some mystique in
this
Alex: I will say that Ken was equally as mad at the
media as I was about this situation with all the
spoilers.
Chico: Well, in the information age, nothing's really a
secret anymore.
Alex: And the bad thing is Sony can't do a thing -
which sucks
Gordon: That leads me to this...What is your opinion
about the media spoiling shows taped in advance? Do they
have the right to do it because it's the public's right
to know?
Alex: I think its just bad.
Jason: Short answer: No, I don't like it.
Alex: I know they can't help it, but some people don't
like to know. I avoided it for a long time. Then I was
watching GMA, and they just had it on the bottom line,
which didn't make me happy.
Jason: I was there, so it wasn't spoiling me.
Chico: It's just one of those Catch 22's. There's the
news aspect, and then there's the whole mystique.
Alex: This makes me remember what ABC did with Mega
Millionaire a while ago with Olmstead.
Chico: And what NBC said with 21.
Jason: oh yeah.
Alex: There was little publicity about this and then
one week, ABC promotes BIG MONEY week. Hmm, I wonder
what's going to happen?
Jason: Gee, I wonder.
Chico: Hmmmm.
Josh: Do you realize we're spoiling it just as all
these people we're talking down upon are?
Gordon: I'll have to disagree here. I think the
difference is that #1. We didn't break the news, so we
aren't going to cause a lawsuit and #2, And more
importantly, we are warning people about a spoiler, so
if they don't want to know, they won't read it. We are
not mentioning it on the main page of the website, nor
will we force-feed people to see the spoiler when they go
into the site Vs. people who are forced to read the
spoiler, like Good Morning America.
Jason: Yeah, I thought that was pretty terrible.
Alex: This was one reason I was happy Russian Roulette
was on such a small network with no giant media outlets
- so we couldn't know if someone won or not. Basically
every other show you could find out easily because of
the media.
Jason: The only people I told, honestly, was
Gordon.... and Jacky (my sis), and that's about all. I
didn't want the news to spread around like it did.
Chico: Personally, I think it reeks of sensationalism.
I mean we live in a world where everything is done in
advance and there is so much pressure to scoop a story
such as this.
Jason: Very true.
Alex: This is why I still think Jeopardy shouldn't be
taped so far in advance.
Chico: If this was back in the 1950s when everything
was done live, you couldn't have that.
Gordon: In this age that we live in, I am convinced that
there were media people in the audience waiting for him
to lose.
Alex: I loved what Millionaire use to do - taping the
day before. There was basically no time for spoilers to
get out.
Chico: Agreed.
Josh: They still do that for Super Mill.
Alex: Yeah, and I really enjoyed that. Taping a few
months in advance really hurts. And to be honest,
Jeopardy is the only show I am happy with this season.
Gordon: That leads me up to the next question - Should
Jeopardy have changed their taping procedures for Ken to
tape it a day in advance?
Alex: They should have done it a long time ago.
Jason: .....oh yeah.
Chico: They should've done it when Millionaire was
doing it.
Josh: But then they'd have to tape one show a day.
Josh: As opposed to 45.
Jason: Well, they should tape a set of shows closer to
the air date.... although that would suck for me, because
I have school now. :-p
Alex: I may be out of the loop, but why exactly do
shows tape so far in advance?
Chico: I'm not sure myself. Gordon?
Jason: I have a few cents, but I want to hear what
Gordon has to say first
Gordon: Easy - $$. You pay a crew much less if you only
have them working for 3-4 months of the year, instead of
9-10 months of the year doing weekly production shoots
and tapings. Millionaire, for instance, tapes through
December, and that's it - they have all of the episodes
for the season through June.
Alex: Yeah, true.
Jason: Good answer.
Gordon: Letterman tapes at around 3-4pm for is late
night show, which airs the same day.
Chico: But the same general principle holds, you know?
Jason: But then I won't get to spoil that somebody
answered in the form of a question. :-D
Alex: And I doubt anything like this will happen again
on Jeopardy, at least for a while, so I guess it's just
too late. But something needs to be done.
Jason: See, for shows like Wheel, there are some things
that are edited down quite a bit.
Alex: Yeah, I'm trying to block out WOF as much as I
can recently.
Jason: Yeah....in a way, it's kinda like video
crack....
Josh: Anyone remember when the Wheel episodes the GSC
saw are going to air?
Gordon: Oct 4-8.
Josh: I'm interested in hearing how far the lady who
beat Ken Jennings goes.
Alex: Yeah, that would be funny - Ken wins 74 games...
The lady wins 1. There would be a lot of jokes about
that.
Jason: I won't say anything.
Gordon: I won't say anything if you don't, Jason.
Jason: *whistles and slowly backs away*
Chico: I bet people are writing that up as we speak.
Gordon: Already written - I will sell it to GMA
for one... meeeelion... dollaaaarrrrs.
Jason: *gasp*
Josh: What day did he tape his last episode?
Alex: Last Tuesday?
Jason: It was.... Tuesday, the 7th
Alex: Ken is back at home now with his family.
Josh: Ha. He did the Ellen show AFTER he had lost.
Jason: Of course!
Chico: You know the funny thing is, reports over the
summer did say Ken would eventually lose.
Gordon: With the Tournament of Champions for the next 2
weeks, and an extra bonus week thrown in, Jennings's
loss will place the episode right at... the end of
November, right through November sweeps.
Jason: It's through the sweeps, as Ken's last day will
be November 30th. On the VERY next episode, there is a
category devoted to "December 1st"
Gordon: Is Ken's ouster at the end of sweeps convenient
or planned?
Alex: Planned
Chico: A little TOO convenient.
Jason: Convenient
Alex: All TV is today is for ratings - which gets
advertisers. I can't wait to see what they do for the
ToC with Ken. Usually, the ToC is for a lot of money,
more than what the contestants usually have. Ken will
basically win a portion of his taxes if he wins the ToC
next year.
Josh: How many tournaments is Ken qualified for?
Alex: Only 1, Josh.
Josh: I'd like to see Ed Toutant go against Jennings.
Alex: Yeah, that would be interesting. Do you think
Ken is the best J! player ever? Or his timing was just
good, that he got on when the Skys the Limit rule came
in.
Chico: Hmm... this is a tough question, because he
knows how to play the game, but he too is a victim of
circumstance.
Alex: I'm stuck on the question too.
Jason: He definitely knows how to play this game
Alex: I think a portion of it is just his timing of
going on the show.
Jason: It's the whole timing of the buzzer thing.
Alex: But honestly, I don't know how many people could
win 74 games out of past contestants.
Jason: Me, neither
Chico: Consistency is the key.
Gordon: I think the older Veteran Jep! guys, like
Forrest and Spangenberg, who I think have a more general
knowledgeable base than Jennings, could beat him.
Jason: Maybe Spangenberg, Forrest could certainly beat
Ken.
Chico: It would be interesting to see them in another
Masters tourney.
Alex: they probably will have him in it
Jason: How about Verini and Timanus?
Gordon: Verini? eh. Timanus I think would be a good
challenge
Jason: I think so, too.
Alex: I am having a tiny bit of doubt that the next
ToC with Jennings will be for $250,000. They are going
to do something...like may the next ToC a million dollar
masters.
Jason: Pfft, only a million??
Chico: Heh.
Jason: That's chunk change for Ken. :p
Alex: One thing I honestly didn't like which was
stressed was the fact that the Million Dollar Masters
player was the first millionaire on that show. I thought
that was a bit unfair to always stress that.
Gordon: Should be fun, whatever they do. Let's get the
people who don't want to be spoiled back into the
conversation.
SPOILER ENDS...
Gordon: Lets talk about something that's also chump
change considered to a million...A billion. Did anyone
see Pepsi's Play for a Billion? What did you think?
Alex: No, I didn't see that.
Jason: LOL
Alex: So I'll just listen.
Chico: I saw it.
Jason: Didn't see it, either. I HAVE a life, hello? :-p
Alex: I went to see a movie.
Jason: When the heck was that, anyway?
Chico: Sept. 12.
Jason: Ohh
Gordon: Way to be reading our GSNN boards, Jason.
Jason: Sorry, but that was the weekend I missed out on,
with it being my 21st and all.
Chico: Oh! Happy belated, J :)
Gordon: So you can now play Super Pan 9 legally
Jason: .....yes...that's right! So far, I have lost $5
total to the PiR slots. I think I played that thing for
a couple hours. THAT is your video crack, right there
Alex: lol
Gordon: Just as a personal note - the California casinos
policy in terms of making sure you are over 21 is..
shall we say...nonexistent.
Jason: ...I think that was pretty evident when you were
here. :)
Gordon: Well, Chico, that leaves you and me. what did
you think?
Chico: I have a life.. and a DVR. Anyway, you have to
admire ABC for teaming a rookie with a veteran. Kinda
like the buddy cops of game showdom.
Gordon: I thought that it was fun, but not nearly as
good as last year, and ABC clearly cut costs on this.
Chico: They had to pay off Destiny's Child is what it
was.
Gordon: Nonsense. They had more stars when it was on the
WB.
Alex: ABC might be the most idiotic network ever.
Jason: As an aside.... Recently, Disney's California
Adventure had their "ABC Preview Weekend" and it was....
terrible! WAY too much "extreme
makeover".
Gordon: Well, this is ABC's way, isn't it - take a hit
show, ruin it into the ground and not worry about
creating new shows to foster it.
Alex: I am actually going to watch a show on the WB
this year... which is scary.
Jason: Which show would that be?
Alex: I am really looking forward to Green Screen In
October.
Jason: Personally, I watch "7th Heaven" just coz I like
watching Bev Mitchell. :-p
Alex: I am a huge fan of Whose Line. So any show like
that, I'll be watching.
Jason: Same here.
Gordon: Green Screen is on when? Thursday at 9?
Alex: Yep.
Jason: There's TV on Thursdays???
Gordon: Airing against Apprentice, CSI, Extreme
Makeover, Tru Calling and the WWE?
Chico: Yep.
Gordon: Enjoy your two episodes of Green Screen before
is gets yanked after getting pummeled by everything else
on at the same time.
Chico: In any event, while we're on the subject of lame
decisions, we had TWO this week. 1) The Apprentice. Two
bad decisions there.
Gordon: Do tell.
Chico: First one was on the part of Bradford, who was a
lock for round 3... but chose to waive his immunity.
This is when his team lost, mind you. And he
was not supposed to be fired if that happened again.
Gordon: Agreed - that was an incredible stupid move on
his part.
Chico: He waives immunity and is taken to the board.
Gordon: and bad decision #2?
Chico: Never mind the fact that he now has guns for
days due to the fact that he was carrying his team on
his back for the past two weeks.
Gordon: Was he? I disagree with that.
Chico: Well, he did better than the other two that were
carried into the board room.
Gordon: I think he was going to carry them to doom in
the first episode until the team overruled him on the
toy. The car was a much better idea than the
football gig. I think his ego got in his way in both this
and the second episode.
Chico: #2 - Stacie and Ivana completely screwed the
pooch, but Bradford's cojones overrode any good he did,
as the Donald put him out of his misery.
Gordon: Do you think the Donald made the right choice?
Chico: Not by a freaking longshot. He just wanted the
attention.
Gordon: So you think the Donald made a bad decision.
Chico: By not going for the weakest link, yes.
Gordon: I completely disagree. I think the Donald made
the right choice. You have someone who is blowing off
both the group and the boss's authority, completely not
listening to his group - and then waiving off the rules.
You don't want someone like that running a business. I
think Trump did that for 2 reasons - 1. He knew he
wasn't going to hire him, so he figured to get rid of
him, and 2 - He sent a message to the team that that
sort of behavior will not be tolerated.
Chico: Sometimes going against the grain works.
Gordon: Going against the grain is good. Doing it by
setting the silo on fire is bad.
Chico: Well the way he was going about it, you'd think
otherwise. We'll see when the extra footage comes in.
Meanwhile, we go to second lame mistake of
the week. The Play-Op is revealed... as Boston Rob.
Gordon: Rob is the player operator - at least we know
where their budget went to now.
Chico: Dawn's dresses! But believe it or not, there
could've been other choices.
Gordon: I'm sensing a Big Board coming on...
Chico: You sense correctly.
Gordon: Light it up!
Chico: Today's topic: End of the Line. I'll explain
this for JD and Alex: on the game, there was a player
operator that basically acted as ...the Inquizitor... A
Charlie, if you will. This Big Board will explore what
would be different if there were other people on the
line. Feel free to jump in with suggestions.
Alex: OK
Chico: Gordon, please begin..
Gordon: For example, if Ken Jennings was the Player
Operator - then you'd either have Computer Geeks or
Mormons as the contestants.
Chico: Personally, I've never heard a geek outside
myself say "spit mad game" before.
Gordon: It could be fun to see that - even worse than
Average Joe.
Chico: WORSE?! How could it get any worse?
Gordon: My next PO could make it worse =)
Chico: Okay, I got one. Mark Thompson. The voice of Fox
could resound in a booming voice and have the players do
something incredibly stupid (and more than likely ripped
off from another show) for money.
Gordon: What about Phyllis Diller? Then we can have
dating for 80 year olds. The Bachelor - Octogenarian
Style.
Jason: *shudders*
Alex: I think I would literally scoop out of my
eyeballs.
Chico: I stand corrected. That was worse.
Gordon: Would you like to dance - or would you rather
suck face?
Josh: Depends whose face I'm sucking.
Gordon: Anyone have any other suggestions?
Chico: Ben Stein. He's got the cred, you know.
Gordon: A show with Smart Republicans...do we have
enough people to fill that show?
Alex: Get Kennedy then. Give me a reason to watch.
Jason: Kennedy!!!!
Chico: Of course!
Gordon: Who would she fill the show up with?
Chico: I'm sure she has female.. Republican...
friends..
Alex: I would hope so. Then lets put it on Pay Per
View.
Gordon: The Player - Republican Lingerie Edition
featuring Kennedy! Brilliant!
Josh: I'd suck Kennedy's face.
Alex: Who wouldn't?
Chico: Or here's a switch-up. How about Gordon as the
Play-Operator?
Gordon: I am sick of the dopey Bachelor shows. Since no
one is looking for love anymore, let's throw a nasty
twist into the genre. I would make STEVE from
MY BIG FAT OBNOXIOUS FIANCE the player and then the game
would be to try to get eliminated from the show so that
you DON'T get married to him.
Chico: Seppuku is allowed, right?
Gordon: no - no Seppuku allowed.
Chico: Damn.
Gordon: The person who is eliminated the last wins
$50,000 - and the person who he picks has to live with
Steve - forever!
Jason: .....maybe he's a good cook. :p
Chico: Go to commercial! GO TO COMMERCIAL!
(This commercial has been brought to you by MY BIG FAT
OBNOXIOUS BACHELOR - You DON'T want him to pick you!)
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