February 21, 2005
Gordon Pepper: This is Gordon
Pepper, and we welcome you on this President's Day Weekend.
Who here has off on Monday?
Chico Alexander: Not me.
James Dinan: Not me.
Joe Van Ginkel: I do. But then I've had the last SIX MONTHS
Chico: Urgh. From somewhere in America, the NHL 2005 Memorial
Edition of WLTI... is on. Chico Alexander with you on this
beautiful Sunday morning.
Gordon: As we note the passing of the NHL season, we say hello
to our panel this morning. From Jeopardy, Millionaire and Beat
the Block on 95.5 PLJ, it's Jason Block!
Jason Block: Yo.
Gordon: From WWTBAM fame, James Dinan.
Gordon: And from Russian Roulette "I did everything right and
still fell down the damn hole" fame, Joe Van Ginkel.
Chico: Anyway, Lot of stuff to go through this week, but
first, it's Lost... for real - only without the plane, the
weird creature, or the dude from Lord of the Rings. Survivor
Palau kicked off by kicking off three. First thoughts on the
first episode... "Dude! Dodgeball!"
Gordon: It's a classic case of pick the kids out of the lot,
as the two people not selected got eliminated. One person was
gone because he could have been a major threat later on down
the line. The other person was eliminated because she....was a
Chico: I would eliminated the looney myself as well. One thing
you don't do on the first day is get on people's nerves. Not
only did Wanda learn that, but so did Jolanda, as the elder of
the Ulong (mmmm... Ulong) tribe is expelled.
Gordon: Well, at least the Black person wasn't left off
James: Didn't we go over this last week?
Chico: Yeah. For about a couple of days last week. But I
suppose Gordon has another reason other than the usual tirade
for people voting her off. At least I hope so or else we're
going to get some angry mail.
Gordon: No tirade. Just making a mental note, that's all.
Omarosa is my new game show hussy. Omarosa, if you're reading
us, e-mail us. Let's chat.
Chico: Oh, so you're saying that she saw it coming, too?
Gordon: Apparently, she did. I do think there was more than
her skin color that got her eliminated, as she was a bit too
bossy - but as she was the only minority in her group, you
would have to wonder if she gets booted if she was white...
Chico: Well, I can tell you that Angie was a hair short of
getting the boot herself. Any reasoning to that?
Gordon: The Black dominant woman who scares people Vs. the
white misfit in society. If Jolanda is white, you could make
an argument that Angie would have been gone instead. As I
said, it was more than skin color, but you would have to
Chico: Well, it could've been worse. You could have Wanda to
kick around for another three days. Talk about scary.
Gordon: Well, her singing isn't nearly as good as...Amanda
Avila's or any of the other 23 singers as we move on to
James: What a segue way.
Chico: So we're down to the final 24... and for the most part,
we're actually seeing some killer threats this time.
Gordon: We're going to get into this in greater detail later
on in the show, but a quick hit here - did the judges make the
right decision or is there
someone who isn't on the list who should be?
Chico: I do have some head-scritchies over why Jaclyn Crum
Gordon: My only thought is that they saw potential there and
they think she would shine next year as a killer talent,
instead of someone who would may be get to the outskirts of
the Top 12.
Chico: I mean, despite everything going on with that girl, she
still turned out a killer showing.
Gordon: She was certainly good enough to be on this year.
Chico: Well, if anything, she has a year to get better. And
she CAN only get better, you know?
James: Absolutely, if she chooses to try out again.
Chico: I think she will. Nothing stopping her from doing so,
Chico: And we'd throw our weight behind her. If her back isn't
that, I'd say final 12 easy :)
Gordon: Jaclyn, if you're reading this, e-mail us. Let's chat.
Chico: You have any problems with the selection, Gordo?
Gordon: I actually think they got it right this year.
Chico: You think so?
Gordon: This is much different than last year, when I was not
pleased with the selections. I don't think they made any
errors with the guys. With the girls, I would have loved to
see Jaclyn and Jessica Todd in there, but you can't argue with
the 12 girls who got in.
Joe: Amanda will own them all.
Chico: We'll see this week when we go to the public vote. But
back to the opening. We made mention that the NHL season is
James: There's always Arena football
Joe: <Vic "The Brick" Jacobs>NHL: You see the Brick? (!SMASH!)
YOU'VE GOT IT!</VTBJ>
Chico: I'm officially switching over to MLS now. :) But what
you may not know is that ESPN2's schedule for the games may
have an adverse effect on three of its game shows from last
year. Namely, "Okay, hurry up offense, we need new episodes."
Gordon: Nothing wrong with that, it's great for the deuce to
be adding game shows to their line-up. However...
Chico: Yep... Your favorite's among them, Gordon.
Joe: STUMP THE SCHWAB!
Gordon: Oh Joy, oh Melodious Rapture. (Rolls Eyes)
<Klauss-Gibson sarcasm detector (TM) goes berserk>
Gordon: And how many episodes of this masterpiece will we be
James: According to the Schwab website, it's 30.
Chico: That's a lot of Schwab.
Joe: There's already a lot of Schwab to go around to start
with, isn't there?
Gordon: Well, it's also a lot of NHL playoffs to be covering.
Chico: Mediaweek's coming out with a report that episodes
could begin as early as April 11.
James: Maybe another friend of mine will win.
Chico: Friend of yours was on the first series?
James: Curt Spear...played NTN with him every week when I
lived in Virginia.
Chico: Ah, C-Money. I remember him well. Almost went all the
Gordon: You ever speak to him, James?
James: Yes...but he admitted that he didn't mind losing at the
Chico: Cool, cool.
James: He agrees with Sal Marchiano...happiness is being as
far away from Bristol, CT as possible.
Gordon: Curt, if you're reading this, e-mail us. Let's chat.
James: As I mentioned to Gordon before, I think there's a good
game in Schwab...the producers need to find it. Perhaps extra
episodes means a format tinkering, which may mean a better
Gordon: I think this calls for a Big Board.
Chico: I'll allow it.
(Big Board Topic - How to FIX Stump the Schwab)
Chico: Just a reminder that putting the show out of its misery
is not an option, Gordon.
Gordon: Since I have to watch 30 episodes of this anyways, we
may as well keep an open mind and hope they tinker it. Fix #1
- Tinker the Schwab. Ben Stein, he wasn't, and he was so
boorish that I wondered if people would actually WANT to work
for him when the show ended.
James: From what I was told...how he acted on the show was NOT
Gordon: Or did they lose to him so they wouldn't have to deal
with him on a permanent basis?
Chico: I didn't think it was, but let's just say if that were
the case, I wouldn't be surprised.
Gordon: Based on what you saw, would any of you want to work
Chico: I think I might've in a past persona... Ever work at
Lowe's? Not a good time.
James: He'd be a good candidate for "Building Respect in the
Gordon: Well, if the prize is to work for a guy that no one
likes, you are going to have problems. #2 - If that's the
case, let's get a better grand prize.
Chico: Two Minute Drill had the right idea. And I defy you to
James: Agree with the 2MD comparison.
Gordon: 2md definitely had the right idea.
James: Given the fact that the job is STILL open (from a
friend of mine who applied for the position), I fear the
Gordon: And I have a very good idea for that - what about the
opportunity to run ESPN for the week? With no hockey going on,
they can decide what to fill in. It could be a sport nut's
James: I may not go that far...perhaps similar to what TV Land
did with Ultimate TV Fan...have the winner run a block of ESPN
Classic every week for a year.
Gordon: Sounds like a great idea.
James: I propose a fix...
Gordon: Go for it James
James: #3 - Dump Stuart Scott. He's fine for Dream Job, but
he's not quiz material. Go for a host who understands that the
contestants are the star of the show, not the host.
James: Bring Kenny Mayne out of mothballs and put him behind
Gordon: Here, here
Chico: Carolina connections aside, I'll drink to that.
Gordon: #4 - Have the Schwab be more interactive before the
bonus round. The Schwab should do something besides spew off
facts and look pompous.
Chico: He was interactive in round 1. For no other reason than
there has to be some instance where he's interactive, I
James: There has to be a better way to work Schwab into the
Chico: Yeah. I mean, after round 1, he didn't even matter
(until the end game). What's up with that?
James: Perhaps something similar to the second round of WBSM,
where Ben played against the two remaining contestants.
Chico: You mean kinda like a reverse of the current formula?
Chico: Ah. Cool.
Gordon: which brings us to...#5 - Game format. Round 2 maybe
should evolve into Round 1, with Round 1 being something else.
James: Also, if they choose to keep Round 1 as is, I would
give a contestant a bonus prize for outpointing Schwab at the
end. Problem there was Round 2 always changed. We need more
consistent game play.
Gordon: True. And we move on to....#6. The bonus round. Way
too complicated for most people to get. Streamline it and make
James: It's as if the producers wanted to cash in on the poker
craze, but had absolutely no clue how to do it.
Chico: I believe that Beat the Geeks had the same round,
except it had a finite payoff point and no strikes.
James: Yes...7 points for a win.
Chico: Hit it right on the nose, James. That worked. In some
ways, this round works, but in some ways, presentation turns
James: Two players...two podiums...host in the middle...that's
all you need.
Chico: KISS: Keep it simple, stupid. Any more fixes or are we
Gordon: Last one....#7 - if we see the same thing as last
season with no fixes, then we should storm the offices in
Bristol, burn the reels and make them revisit 2 Minute Drill.
James: Agreed...I mean the same production company is
responsible for Schwab and Drill. How can you do one so right
and one so wrong?
Chico: Ask Jack Barry.
Chico: Not even a SECRET that Bullseye and the Joker's Wild
were essentially the same game :)
Gordon: That fixes the Schwab - hopefully.
Chico: Well, another show that ESPN is rushing to the airwaves
in the NHL's wake... I'd Do Anything. A chance for George Gray
to redeem himself after the $25 Million Hoax.
James: ...and Greek Games
Chico: And every dark nadir in his roller-coaster career. I'd
go into details, but we already did in a past episode. Look
for the Big Board entitled "Gray's Anatomy". It's all there.
Gordon: Finally, this weekend, we will get Dream Job 3, which
will also be extended for a few episodes thanks to the lack of
NHL. We'll get to more of that on the next show.
Chico: Still on sports, and now that we have Jason here...
Jason: Go ahead...this one makes my blood boil and I have been
waiting all week.
Chico: Mount St. Block is about to ignite...
Gordon: For the first time ever, someone commits suicide
before the start of a show. As The Contender starts, the
question becomes...should it? Mr. Block, I hand you the
Jason: A contender for the Contender...Najai Turpin shot
himself in the head. He left a 2 yr old daughter and a
girlfriend. The questions remain. The fact is we know that is
he is NOT in the live final, obviously. So what do you do? My
theory is that a) his loss in the show b) combined with the
fact that he was mentally unstable enough to shoot himself
over his lovelife means a few things. That the show didn't
catch it or they didn't want to catch it. So my opinion is
that the show should NOT go on. And if they do show the show,
they are exploiting his memory--trust fun or not. Burnett has
got a major hot potato on his hands - And this leads to
something else which I will discuss later.
Gordon: I will give you a simple reason why it should go on.
Quite honestly, this show gives 16 people a chance to make a
jump in their lives - to give themselves a future that they
would never have without the help of the show. Two of these
people still have a shot at a million dollars - but even more
importantly, a chance to make a huge step and jump into the
big time of their profession. If you cancel the show, you ruin
the dreams of 16 people just to protect the sanctity of one
person who can no longer be helped by anyone on this Earth.
Joe: Agreed, sadly.
Jason: I say ruin the dreams.
Gordon: And you will ruin the chances of at least one person
of winning a million dollars - and possibly a handful of life
Jason: Burnett and Stallone are pissing on this guy grave for
ratings, money and airtime. Nothing more. They don't give a
rat's ass about him.
Gordon: Maybe so, but they care about the people who they can
help promote - and so do I.
Jason: Ok..I have one question for you. Let's say during the
live finale we have a punch to the head by one of the boxers
and someone dies in the ring (a la Owen Hart--the WWF wrestler
who died in a harness accident)--what then? Do you still not
blame Burnett for this fiasco?
Gordon: That happens in the real world of boxing occasionally,
so that wouldn't be a rarity than only happens in a game show.
I think it would be a
Joe: Besides how would Burnett be able to anticipate something
like that in the first place?
James: From what I've heard, the boxing insiders already know
who will be in the final fight, so they already know who has
"it." Canceling the show
won't stop the fighters from reaching their dreams.
Gordon: If they don't get the national spotlight, they stand
to lose money in endorsements and potential deals. This show
would also be used to help
reinvigorate boxing, so the fates of the sport and of people's
professions are also riding on the show.
James: Nobody cares about pro boxing, and I just feel the
Contender would fail no matter what.
Joe: Uh, James, I'm a boxing fan myself.
Gordon: I think Burnett is going to shy more to the tales and
the backgrounds of the contenders and les on the sport - and
Burnett is a master in that field.
James: NBC doesn't have much hope for this show, given the
frequent delays and time slot switches.
Gordon: I agree, but I think that they are at least going to
try - and you never know.
James: I'm a boxing fan, too, but our numbers have been
slipping for decades.
Joe: Truthfully, though, James does have a point. NBC
obviously doesn't have much faith in this show, otherwise
they'd have sent it in against American Idol.
James: And now it's going up against Cold Case, Simpsons and
Extreme Makeover 2.
Gordon: At least it's giving the show a chance - whereas
against American Idol or Lost, it gets shelled.
James: I'm a bit surprised there has been no outcry over NBC
and Burnett agreeing to air the show.
Jason: Because people want to see the exploitation. Thank you.
Gordon: I don't think there will be an outcry. If you can link
the death to the show, I think you would have something, but
you can't, and hence the show must go on. I think we need to
take a break before we can go on. Chico?
Chico: Well, the Idols take... the CHAIR! (Happy birthday,
Johnny Mac!) in Who's Your Daddy, and who should be the daddy
as Jeopardy! is given the Accuracy or Idiocy treatment. We'll
see you after the break!
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